(Please read Mark Driscoll, Apology Accepted here)
As a young pastor I keep getting told that I need to learn
from the leadership training of Mark Driscoll, who is the leader of the Acts 29
Network and pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle, Washington. He is considered
to be a leadership guru for young church leaders, but I believe that his
methodology is dangerous.
To Driscoll’s credit, he teaches a lot of good theology.
Most of Driscoll’s fans seem to be in the emerging church, but Driscoll himself
is no fan of the emerging church. He is the first to point out the fact that
they do not believe in absolute truth, and that they care more about handing
out “muffins and hugs” than they do about preaching the gospel. In a day where
the emerging church spends more time giving happy pep talks, Driscoll is a teacher
of theology. And while I do not agree with all of his theology, I do appreciate
that he is teaching it. Unfortunately, it is guys like him that say just enough
good stuff to give themselves credibility.
First of all, he admits to and even brags about committing
theft in his book Confessions of a
Radical Rev. He boasts that he never had to pay for electricity in one of
his first buildings because “the building was illegally hooked up to the power
grid and all our power was stolen (p.125).” And in case you think that is no
big deal and I am just being picky, consider that he stole something tangible
as well. “I stole an unused sound console from my old church, along with a
projector screen, which were sins Jesus thankfully died to forgive (p.62).”
Talk about making a mockery out of grace! He is bragging
about being a thief and making a joke about the blood of Jesus! It would be a
different story if he premised these accounts by saying he regrets what he did
or he has repented, but it is this type irreverence that makes him too immature
to be considered a good leader.
I also disagree with him on the issue of drinking alcohol. I
am not going to use this blog to make the case for abstinence from alcohol, but
I certainly believe in it. Driscoll feels differently, making comments that
“God has come to earth and kicks things off as a bartender (The Radical Reformission, p.30)” He
makes comments about drinking beer frequently in his books and sermons, but the
thing that gets me is that he requires the people he trains to brew their own
beer at home. He has a chapter titled The Sin of Light Beer in The Radical Reformission where he makes
the case that light beer came about to please feminists, and that good
Christians should oppose feminism by drinking “good beer.”
With that knowledge of good beer versus sinful beer,
Driscoll says in Confessions of a Radical
Rev. that he holds boot camps to teach guys how to “brew decent beer
(p.131).” He also says that he became convicted of his “sin of abstinence from
alcohol. So in repentance, I drank a hard cider over lunch with our worship
pastor (The Radical Reformission
p.146).”
I also have a problem with the way that he uses the secular
to make his points. I know that Jesus and Paul made illustrations of things
like fishing, running, and farming, but those things are not sinful. In
Driscoll’s book The Radical Reformission he
includes examples of radicals on mission with him. Among them are David Bruce
from Hollywood Jesus, who calls himself a missionary because he takes clips
from movies and uses them to make comparisons to Christianity (I have been a
long time critic of using movies that are full of curse words, sexual content,
and God’s name in vain as “witnessing material”). He also features Icabod
Caine, a country music DJ in Seattle, who said we are “basically clueless” as
to the difference between the secular and sacred, and yet he views himself as a
missionary even though he daily plays music that is filled with drunkenness,
divorce, and profanity.
Another example of Driscoll using the secular in place of
Scripture comes from his owning and operating of The Paradox, which was a venue
that was designed to host concerts. Driscoll said he rarely used the venue to
host Christian bands because his goal was to get unsaved people into the
building. But the problem is that the gospel was never presented to these
unsaved kids; they would basically pay secular bands to come perform (thus
supporting what they stand for), then let the crowd leave unchanged. Instead of
being a pastor, this makes Driscoll nothing more than a concert promoter. In
his own words, Driscoll never “preach[ed] at the kids” or did “goofy things
like handing out tracts (Confessions of a
Radical Rev. p.127).”
The basement of the building, he says, was a place where
local junkies would do black tar heroine, and the back is where junkies would
“shoot up drugs and poop on the ground (p.125),” and he laughs about the
Japanese punk band that randomly stripped naked during the show. Don’t worry
though, because during these concerts Driscoll saw “many kids come to faith
through relationships (p.127).” This might sound elementary, but relationships
don’t save people, faith in Jesus and repentance does.
He also has one of his church leaders routinely lead
discussions on movies they watch, including “unedited R-rated” movies, to teach
people to think critically (Confessions,
p.157). Humans are totally depraved; why do we need to look at sin in order to
critique it?
But what drives me crazy about Driscoll is his crudeness. I
will break down this final point into three areas: his general crudeness, his
obsession with crude sexuality, and his crudeness when referring to my Lord.
His language is foul, crude, and offensive. I can’t even do
justice to how crude he is because I refuse to write most of the words he uses.
He makes no apology for the time he “cussed out the poor guy” who came to him
for counseling when he was having a bad day (Confessions of a Radical Rev. p.128), or for the fact that he
“cussed a lot” when he was frustrated (p.129), including cussing at the bare
offering plate (p.47). On page 133 he uses a crude word for prostitute and a
crude word for an illegitimate child.
In The Radical
Reformission he uses yet another crude term to refer to a loose woman
(different from the one mentioned above) on page 29. In Vintage Jesus he quotes Brad Pitt from the movie Fight Club, where he uses the longer
form of being P.O.’ed (p.201).
His crudeness is also sexual. In Confessions he refers to intercourse as “banging (p.128).” On the
same page he admits to being burned out in the ministry due to “an
unspectacular sex life,” and he makes a reference to a woman being “hot like
hell.” On page 96, when admitting that he isn’t like most pastors, jokes about
using words in sermons like a term to refer to the male reproductive organ, as
well as having “an aluminum pole in the bedroom.” Some of those “sermons on sex
were R-rated (p.134).”
One of those R-rated sermons was when he gave all the guys two
stones to symbolize what they needed in order to be real men (p.129). His
lingo was cruder.
In Radical he says
that Adam and Eve were “horny (p.28—on that page he also uses a crude term for
a prostitute)” and he makes a joke about a gay orgy on page 33. He makes wisecracks
about people using Viagra on pages 75 and 165. There is also a joke about a
vasectomy on page 76.
Driscoll talks frankly about a threesome on page 92, and
about girls’ tight pants making their backsides look big on page 95, about a
girl having “junk in her trunk” on page 119.
On page 187 he references a man’s genitals, and on 185 he brags about
teaching on subjects like the different ways that a woman can climax.
In Vintage Jesus
he refers to intercourse as “knocking boots (p.11) and “shagging (p.41).” While
attending a Monday Night Football game, he writes that “half-naked young women
provide eye candy (p.164).”
On page 169 he says that our culture worships “good
old-fashioned naked crazy-making” and he makes yet another reference to eating
Viagra on page 183.
He also makes references to graphic sexual practices that
take place, both as couples and alone, dozens of times. Not only does he talk
about these topics that shouldn’t be mentioned, he does it in such a crass way.
These references do not include his forthcoming book which will deal with these
topics and much more (http://www.christianpost.com/news/mark-driscoll-answers-the-can-we-do-that-questions-in-upcoming-book-55728/print.html).
But the worst of all of his crude comments comes in a
conversation he felt the need to include in Confessions
when a member of his church called him during the night crying, and told him
that he had just watched a dirty movie. Driscoll asked him, “Was it a good
porno?” When the young man asked for prayer, this is the prayer that Driscoll
records: “Jesus, thank you for not killing him for being a pervert. Amen.”
Driscoll then told the man not to call him at night when he is sleeping, and
said he didn’t have time to be his accountability partner.
But it gets worse. When the man asked for advice, here is
Drsicoll’s reply: “You need to stop watching porno and crying like a baby
afterwards…a naked lady is good to look at, so get a job, get a wife, ask her
to get naked, and look at her instead (p.60).”
Not exactly a good leadership technique.
Mark Driscoll is also crude when speaking of Jesus. In Vintage Jesus he has a four-word
sentence: “Jesus was a dude (p.31).” This dude “did things that normal people
do, like farting, going to the bathroom, and blowing boogers from his nose
(p.32).”
On page 43 he says that Jesus acted as if He needed Paxil,
that He was cruel for calling the Pharisees hypocrites, that He needed
sensitivity training, and that He commissioned His disciples to “take a donkey
without asking like some kleptomaniac donkeylifter.”
On page 44 he says that Jesus yelled at his disciples for
sleeping “as an obvious workaholic who needed to start drinking decaf and
listening to taped sounds of running water while doing aromatherapy so he could
learn to relax.”
I don’t care who this offends: I’m not taking leadership
advice from a “pastor” that calls my Lord a pill-popping, cruel, insensitive,
workaholic kleptomaniac dude who farts and blows boogers out of His nose. And
neither should you.
I know Driscoll defends himself by saying that humor is his
thing, but there is nothing funny about belittling the King of the universe.
Jesus is not a dude or my homeboy, He is my precious Lord and Savior. I would
not let anyone talk about my wife that way, so why would I let him talk that
way about the one who has saved me?
But that is just one book. In Radical he refers to “the God-Man” going “through puberty” and
speculates that He had to have received at least one wedgie (p.29).
I have called Mark Driscoll a pervert from the pulpit, and
will do nothing less here. If you are a pastor or leader who looks up to this
man, or if you are a believer who reads or listens to him, please consider who
he really is. I know the hip thing in churches is to be edgy and be the
opposite of your grandparents preacher who wore a suit, parted his hair on the
left, and used the KJV exclusively. And that is fine. But if you are looking
for a good preacher, look for one who loves and respects the Lord and His Word,
and do not turn your ears to these shock and awe men who are ear pleasing.
Consider Paul, who was a godly man that the young pastor
Timothy looked up to. Paul warned Timothy to preach the Word because the day
would come when people would recruit teachers to say what makes them feel good,
and Driscoll is one of those men.
Finally, consider these paradoxical excerpts from Vintage Jesus. On page 159 he explains
that lordship means that “Jesus has authority over the… shows we watch.” Then
on 160 he says that we are to “say no to ungodliness in all its forms.” And on
page 167 he uses the TV show South Park as
an illustration, even referring to it as “hilarious.” If you know anything
about that show you know it has the worst language on TV; South Park was actually the first show to ever use the “S” word on
TV, and after weeks of advertising that they were going to do it, they kept a counter
on the screen that kept track of each time the word was used, totaling 162
times on a half hour show.
Real hilarious, Mark.
And if Jesus has authority over the shows you watch, and you
say no to ungodliness in all its forms, then how does South Park fit into that equation?
I wonder if Driscoll ever preaches from Ephesians 4:29: “Let
no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth.”
Pastors, if you want real leadership I have a suggestion.
“Look unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith (Hebrews 12:2).”